And I think that adds to our resistance to getting help.

One hundred percent.

One of the things I've done a lot of grand rounds talking to residents, talking to incoming classes of surgeons.

And I'm pretty much the only person that has talked to them, you know, an hour, maybe two across an entire academic career, across all of the training that they do.

So there's no exposure.

There's no expectation that this is something that you can do something about.

And you're right.

Are there different things we're looking at laparoscopic?

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I had a lot of people coming up to me and asking me, "You know, I've got this, this thing in my hip.

I've got this thing in my shoulder.

I've got this, I've got that." And definitely started to notice some patterns depending on what kind of doctor it was.

You know, my GI doctors were, were getting one type of injury, um, the transplant surgeons were getting another kind of injury or had another kind of complaint.

And, you know, I'd, I'd done a little bit of exploring.

So can you break that down for me?

Oh, yeah.

But

a lot of people don't.

Yeah.

And even more so when you feel rotten, when you have some type of organ failure, whether it's kidney disease or liver disease or whatever, you feel terrible and you absolutely do not want to participate in an exercise program.

So really, for me, it is finding what we would call the minimum effective dose.

What's the least amount of stuff that I can give you that you can do the least frequently that's going to give you the maximal effects? So what we're looking at really is three to four exercises.

Three sets, 10 repetitions.

And then I'm curious what you might have to suggest for grief and movement for families who lose a loved one or are going through a hard time