You're always right because it's so vague.

Yes, we should do some digital transformation business model innovation.

All right.

Do you know what we want? No, you don't.

Right.

And that's our vision.

Yeah, but what do you mean? And then it's quiet.

Who knows? And I think it's really interesting to kind of think about that psychology of, and it comes back down to risk, right? And appetite and being willing to innovate.

Are those still valid

today? Yes, those are still very valid.

Most of the people start innovation with an idea.

I got an idea.

Or you say, hey, that's what's happening now in big corporates.

We must do something with AI.

The fear of missing out, FOMO, we must do something with it.

Yeah.