I would love to start by talking about how did you get into filmmaking?

Okay, so actually that I owe to my wonderful, wonderful fiance, Mila, who's a pretty accomplished actor.

Um, like we were talking about, we, there was, there was sort of a rule.

She, she had said she would, you know, never date an actor, never date somebody in film.

And, uh, um, well, here I am now, I guess I'm officially a filmmaker because I've, I've made my first film.

Um, and thank you to you for, for being such an awesome director and, and being so patient because nothing worked out the way it was supposed to in that, in that first, uh, you know, film that we made.

Um, but yeah, I, I actually, one day she was, they were doing the 48 hour film festival and I dropped her off at location, which was just around the corner from the house, luckily.

Can we can we talk a little bit about the making of your first short film, which I was involved with and we made it a couple of months ago? What was that process like?