Quite interested to get the, uh, the, the o- opposite view from the, the people inside of HSV actually making those decisions and making that difference.

So yeah, uh, tell you a quick little story.

They did a, they, they used to do, within the company, they used to do, um, sort of, uh, profiles on people.

Like, "This is Jerry, and he's the engine calibrator." So they did one on me, and it went on, on Facebook, and there was a lot of abuse that happened, right? 'Cause people were like, "He doesn't know how to calibrate shit."He's useless.

Uh, I can make the engine leaner and I can get a lot better fuel economy and I can get lots more power so he doesn't know what he's doing.

So there's, there's things you have to do, like you have to pass emissions, you've got to run Lambda 1.

So y- we all know you can turn the closed loop system off and just run it lean and you can even get, get better fuel economy, but the knocks go through the roof and you fail straight away.

So what's, what's your, your role been at HP Tuners? Take us through that.