That's the most influential, right?

Yeah, you talk about embodiment too.

It's like...

Like it wasn't about like him even trying to convert you into some, it wasn't about religion or anything.

He, for me, it's the, you were just kind of sharing this with me earlier.

Like when I was telling you about the man in the container that came to God and, you know, just when I was creating that space and you were like, hey, that's what Jesus did.

You know, he met people where they were at, right? You know, and the thing that I feel I've learned a lot from Jesus has been his compassion and his ability to really care and have empathy and like meet people where they're at and accept them for where they're at and not judge them or need to.

What's hopeful and what would be a good idea to possibly step into moving forward?