Is that sort of the right analysis? Does that now look like the most spectacular misjudgment by Macron calling that election?

It was definitely a spectacular misjudgment.

I mean, Macron was elected in 2017 on the promise to bring back order, to bring France's finances under control, to bring society and the country together, to have a great foreign policy, to make Europe a cornerstone country.

France's foreign policy, but also domestic policy.

And actually, his mandate started out really well.

You know, when he was elected, he was there in front of the Louvre, everyone was waving EU flags.

It was just after Brexit.

Is she actually a different type of political proposition to Jean-Marie Le Pen or is it just that she just looks different and knows how to reach different voters? Yeah.