
George Diplas
AI governance lawyer and founder of Novalta℠; Strategic Advisor on Enterprise AI at Muuvment, speaker on responsible AI deployment and organizational governance.
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Jun 26, 2026
Shadow AI in Sustainability Teams (and How to Govern It) | George Diplas & Martin Sieg
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10:23speaker_1HOST
And what changes first? Is it policy? Is it tooling? Is it training or approvals?

George DiplasGUEST
Yeah, no, that's another great question, because these are real conversations that I'm a part of almost every day now in terms of this, what we call shadow AI, right? And the short answer is that once AI starts touching real data, is a part of real decisions, is a part of external facing work, it's no longer experimentation, it's implementation.

George DiplasGUEST
And so the biggest signal you're looking at for them, it stopped being experimentation as soon as it touched your real workflows, your real business work.
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22:05speaker_1HOST
So what's your minimum evidence standard before something can ship? Is it citations? Is it data lineage, human sign-up, versioning, or audit trails?