And we cannot tolerate that any longer as Local 145.

But what else are we seeing in terms of the landscape out there? It's not like these other municipalities aren't struggling with money.

Let's make that very clear.

San Francisco is a great example.

City of Los Angeles is a great example.

And they're both... comparable agencies in our studies.

Correct.

Can you speak to some of the things that the everyday citizen in San Diego can do or show up for?