I know you're a Cincinnati Red, and we'll get to the no-hitter in the interview, but tell us a little bit about your beginnings with baseball.

Well, you know, in high school, I was nothing really.

I mean, I was a good pitcher, but I had a good team behind me.

And I remember my last high school game, we were playing for the semifinals of the Valley Championship, and we were playing against a team from Fresno, Roosevelt High School, Fresno.

They had a pitcher by the name of Wade Blackingham who was the number one pitching prospect in America, high school.

And so there was 30 scouts at the game.

There were scouts whose teams weren't even in existence yet in 1961.

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