For the problems we've been talking about with, with field scheduling, those spreadsheets are, are inherently not very good.

No. Right? There are other scheduling problems where...

that are simpler and, and that you can do really well with, with a kind of manual or kind of heuristic approach.

But with field scheduling problems, the complexity, the combinatorics are sort of insane.

Yeah, it's completely...

We had this Christmas, uh, quiz where we said, "Okay," it, it was a very simple problem.

kinda how, what is their perspective?

That's a good question.