Now, for someone that's been knitting since they were five, has got a degree in knitting and runs a business that does knitting, what new skills are you going to be learning?

Yeah, so I guess I've learned over the years, I've learned from watching, like being in factories or being with cottage knitters and watching them.

And I kind of want to get the kind of, I guess, the right language, know the right processes and steps.

So...

So one of them, actually, I've got a jumper here.

It's a little kid's one.

It's this hand intarsia.

But hand knitted? Or machine knitted?