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Gene Stone

Gene Stone

American writer and editor

Aug 5, 2026

19:36
Gene Stone isn't sure it's quite that simple.
19:40
She had all of these conflicting emotions, things she didn't understand.
19:44
Stuff was coming up that she had no idea what it meant.
19:47
I think, frankly, if she'd wanted to kill herself, she would've.
19:50
And certainly she thought about it.
19:52
She talked about throwing herself off a bridge and such.
19:55
But Ruth, um, she's a survivor, and she did survive through all of these things that happened to her through life.
20:59
At first, Ruth couldn't remember doing it at all, but then the memories started to clear up.
20:55
For Hill, it seems like Ed is truly blindsided by this news, but he has a way of making sure that Ed is being honest, and it's time to use it, the polygraph.
21:08
So then they ask him if he'd take a lie detector test to prove his innocence.
21:12
He's thinking, I'm really nervous.
21:14
I don't know what's going on, and I've heard that lie detector tests aren't always right.
21:19
What if it says I do know about Ruth? Then he thinks, but if I say I won't take one, then they'll think I'm guilty.
21:26
So he agrees to take the test.
25:40
She was on her way, and they were going to get their answers.
25:45
What LaMunyon told me, the key to the case was that he refused to meet Ruth.

Unknown podcast

The Poet | 4. Ruth Under Siege

Jul 22 · 36m

32:30
Ruth's case was just one of many.
32:32
Lemoyne was amazing.
32:34
You know, I'm a weird little gay New Yorker, and he was this country sheriff from the right wings, far right wing promise keeper.
32:43
We got along great.
32:48
He spent a lot of time with Lemoyne while writing his book on Ruth's case.
32:53
This was not looking good for the police department.
32:55
First they had the BTK killer who they never solved.
32:59
Now they have the poet and they haven't solved it.

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