Gemma, what about you?

Oh, yeah, of course it was, uh, seeing everyone in person, and seeing Ross and Roddy give their seminar, and Anna and Michela doing the same.

Excellent, uh, excellent to see.

Great.

[laughs]

Because I think if you've seen it all individually on some kind of video, you, you don't really get the sense of how people really feel about these things.

But when it reared up and shook someone's hand, [laughs] it was really awful.