Were you in the middle of changing careers then

and rebuilding? The irony was at that point in time, I wasn't.

So I was managing in-house legal for a construction company.

And then I had just put in a proposal for me to do an MBA, which is kind of mad in hindsight and mad in the sense that That would have never been right for me.

I put it in and they said that the business is not yet of the size for you to do this.

They knew that I was at the top of where I could be within the company, within what I was doing.

So then I started looking after people development as well.

For our listeners, our lovely female audience, who I know are going to love this episode so much, you know, for anyone who is resonating right now, and I'm sure there's lots, with everything that we're talking about and they're thinking, this is me and I am feeling really low and, you know, I know that things need to change.