What were just your takeaways? I know we talked a little bit before we started recording about that, but just your takeaway from those decision makings and go wherever you want with Owen as well and what you thought of his game.

Yeah, and Joel kind of hinted at it.

I call it Leroy Jenkins football.

You need to play a little effing football right now.

Especially, it was 20-3.

This is the first time I saw this, and I was like, what are we doing? It was fourth and one around the midfield line, and it was 20-3.

You're playing against the number one offense, one of the best offenses that you're going to face all season.

But, Gavin, as we wrap up before we move on to just previewing Boise State super quick, anything you want to add on any of those topics? We haven't gotten to you in a minute here.

After I just set the table for you, Gavin, right there, Who do you think is the front runner right now heading into fall camp? Like, do you give the nod to Duggar because he was there in Washington State? Or do you go with the transfer in Pinnock who has the proven numbers? Maybe not at the FBS level, but he has competition in college football.

I love the competition.

I'm going to go back to what I said there and just digging a little bit deeper into this competition that we have going on.

Some may say that there's not a competition going on.

We already know who's going to start.

I'd like to just kind of, hey, play a little bit along the lines of give all these boys a chance.

There's a reason all three of them are here.

Take me through his and what you like about him.