How do you talk to people about the missing, what do I call it, the mechanism, I guess, which actually subsidizes all the solar?

The SRETs and there's local jurisdictions.

It's kit.

It's not just solar.

You've also got subsidies for smart appliances.

I've retrofitted my house.

I'm very fortunate.

And maybe there's two different, a charge for exporting instead of a feed-in tariff for it.

What if, though, you were really smart about it and you said, right, I'm only going to run the dishwasher, the clothes washer and potentially the dryer during the free period? Could that shift the scale a bit?

Well, it depends on the other appliances.

So it all swings around about.

So you'd want to be able to shift quite a lot into that free period and you'd want to be really disciplined about it because if you all of a sudden a couple of days a week shifted back into the other period, you get hoovered up by the increased costs in the other time zones.

So I look at it and think if you're disciplined, you've got an electric vehicle or you've got a home battery, it could work for you.

You just suck as much juice as you can.

Up to 24 kilowatts, there is a cap.

Because when you think about it, like, I mean, you know, turning the lights on, like, if you have all the lights on in the house, I mean, you don't really need to do that in the middle of the day, but you do need to do it first thing in the morning and in the evening, particularly in the winter months.

What if, though, you were really smart about it and you said, right, I'm only going to run the dishwasher, the clothes washer and potentially the dryer during the free period? You know, could that shift the scale a bit?

Well, it depends on the other appliances.

So it all swings around about.

So you'd want to be able to shift quite a lot into that free period and you'd want to be really disciplined about it because if you all of a sudden a couple of days a week shifted back into the other period, you get hoovered up by the increased costs in the other time zones.

So I look at it and think if you're disciplined, you've got an electric vehicle or you've got a home battery, it could work for you.

You just suck as much juice as you can.

Up to 24 kilowatts, there is a cap.

Because when you think about it, like, I mean, you know, turning the lights on, like if you have all the lights on in the house, I mean, you don't really need to do that in the middle of the day, but you do need to do it first thing in the morning and in the evening, particularly in the winter months.