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Um, so I got to UVA in 1984 as a freshman.

They, you know, call it first year, second year, third year.

Um, and I lived in a dorm that was away from the first year dorms, 'cause they, they had accepted too many students, so I was living in an upper class dorm with some other first year kids.

Some people didn't like it, 'cause they wanted to be over with the first year crowd.

Some people, you know, thought it was okay.

I was fine with it, 'cause it was quieter.

Absolutely.