What were you doing before you became an entrepreneur?

Uh, raising two kids, uh, whatever it took to raise two kids.

My daughter played volleyball.

My daugh- and my son played basketball, so we would just ...

Uh, all my whole life actually just revolved around them 'cause we traveled all the time and stuff.

So it was whatever it took to make sure that I was available, uh, for practices, training, and being there.

So yeah, that's, uh, pretty much all I did.

Mm-hmm.