Basically kind of how you started out like in accounting otherwise and how you got to the point that you're at in your career today.

The quick story or the quick version of it is I graduated with an accounting degree, ended up in Houston or in the Houston area, started to work at a company called Methodist Hospital doing cash management for them and thought I must have been the smartest guy in the world because I was 21, 22 years old.

dealing with all sorts of money, investments and everything else.

Got my CPA license, moved to a different organization.

I really, when I left college, I thought, hey, I either want to be a commercial transaction attorney or I might want to be a high school football coach.

And so I spent a lot of time thinking about going to law school.

And I went to work for a law firm doing all their international accounting and stuff like that.

and