Well, there's

a guy named Dean Wiginton.

He's talked a lot about this.

There are systems in place.

We know that they've had patents in place for a long time.

And to your point, Rick, what you were saying, look, this is regional.

Yeah, it's regional.

Those lasers don't exist in space.

Because again, my thought process is if they can believe this about reality or what's true, then what else in their life is just completely detached.

Yeah, I think you have a much more Christian approach to that than me.

I'm not going to say God bless you, and I should.

What I reach out to these people for, who I am constantly struggling with, I have disdain for these people in ways that is not healthy and it's not christian but with that being said the reason that i do it is is not for them because i think a lot of these people i'm not going to change their mind and i do pray for these people at the same time it's like you know i i do hope they change i just it's not gonna nothing gary says is gonna do it but the reason that i think these where i've become more and more convinced that this discourse whether it's in spaces whether you're surrounded by 30 idiots screaming at you the reason it's important is for the other people listening that, you know, the people that aren't terminally online, you know, that aren't there, there's all kinds of people that are jumping into these spaces just for entertainment value and they can hear and they can compare and contrast what's being said.

And I think that's, that's why it's important to me.

Um, But yeah, you're right.

And to go back, just so we don't get too hammered in the comments, when we're talking about conspiracy theories, like you were saying, that are just so out of alignment with reality, that are just so ridiculous, and just are demonstrably false, which a lot of these things are.

in tune to and it can be difficult to be in tune to it because if you're i would consider normal i think that's less likely to like come naturally i think again most people think of money they understand that greed can be tempting but why would you want to make like no money being a podcaster uh or i guess media money making a podcast or it's what you said candace owens i don't think she necessarily just does it for the money she would still do this even if she was a billionaire

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Yeah.

And that's why I've made this such a priority, because it's not this is not about Candace.

And of course, in November, when I first saw this and I ended up releasing my first video about Candace, December 6th, and I just went through and I highlighted where she's clearly lying and being deceptive.

And honestly, I thought I was going to lose one hundred thousand followers.

I knew like there was a lot of crossover between my audience and hers.

And like I thought this was so important that I didn't care and I still don't.

It just fits.

Ugh.

Well, we started...

I started doing some research on her, and then other people were contacting me doing some research on her, and she definitely has ties to, uh, the Russian government, and people within the Russian government.

And there's an article, uh, I'll send you guys if you wanna post, you know, below this, or I don't know where you're gonna publish this, uh, on her and her ties to the FSB, uh, among other, um, Russian intelligence and Russian special operations.

But I, I will tell you, this...

Like, if you watch her content, number one, she is an im- immigrant that came from Georgia, definitely spent a lot of time in Russia.

Uh, there's plenty of, plenty of content out there of her, number one, advocating for v- uh, violent, uh, violent revolution here in the United States.

It just fits.

But it might be fun to kind of go through a few more of those that you've picked up on this week, Gary.

Sure.

Whether we're talking about Candace or just going into – look, this is where I came into this.

Number one, I'd followed Charlie for many years, was a big fan, and was – I don't remember if I was watching it live, but within minutes – I was watching what happened.

I'm talking less than 10 minutes.

I actually think I was watching a lot.

But regardless, because of my background, number one, it felt personal, right? It's like, this is the guy that I feel like I know.

fragments.

So just from your knowledge, uh, across the spectrum, and your own visits, d- do you feel there's any misconceptions that you're seeing repeated over and over and over again that have spread really far that, in your opinion, are pretty easily debunked or opposed?

Yeah.

You know, there's been a, a cycle of people taking very normal things, um, or maybe even slightly abnormal, and then turning them into suspicious items, right? One of the things that really struck me on the ground there was exactly how easy this entire thing was.

You know, before I went there, one of the things that was being portrayed was like this was, you know, some big conspiracy, it's very complex, you need professional hitmen, it's 140 yards, it's so far, all these things.

Now, I knew the distances was nothing f- especially for a scoped rifle.

I mean, that is, you know...

My, my eight-year-old son was going to courses with us shooting 1200 yards.

Got it.

So just from your knowledge across the spectrum and your own visits, do you feel there's any... misconceptions that you're seeing repeated over and over and over again that have spread really far that, in your opinion, are pretty easily debunked or opposed?

Yeah, you know, there's been a cycle of people taking very normal things or maybe even slightly abnormal and then turning them into suspicious items, right? One of the things that really struck me on the ground there was exactly how easy this entire thing was.

You know, Before I went there, one of the things that was being portrayed was like this was, you know, some big conspiracy.

It's very complex.

You need professional hitmen.

It's 140 yards.

It's so far, all these things.

So how much