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Gary Hardgrave

Gary Hardgrave

Former Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs of Australia

Sep 10, 2026

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Queensland's about to get d-downgraded.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And the only reason that the Australian government kept its, uh, triple A credit rating was because we-- they brought in new taxes.
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And so that keeps, uh, the, uh, the, the credit rating agencies happy.
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"Oh, good, new taxes.
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That's fine.
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That's income.

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... how, do you remember your feelings, where you were, and, and, and, and how it changed what you did?
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Talk, uh, this afternoon.
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The CSIRO, the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization, have done a report into the cost of our energy grid being greened.
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Oh my gosh.
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Which I'm, I, I, I'm gonna talk to an expert about this, somebody who actually does have a thoughtful take on it, and it's good.
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Don't, don't be scared by it.
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It's just that these guys in charge of it frightens me.
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Sure.
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And, and you go into some of these different hospitals, QEII was one.
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Logan was where Dad, uh, eventually passed.
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But going in, into those places and you see, [laughs] in the case of one night at Logan, I'll never forget this.
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Monday night at Logan Hospital, and there's four police officers guarding two people who are on stretchers that have been brought in by the ambos.
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They can do whatever they want.
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So I think we've gotta keep our local pharmacist, the person in that white coat, and now it's more often to be a woman of Asian background than it is the, the old sort of bloke with the gray hair.
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That's basically the profile of pharmacies now.
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Beautiful, nice, crisp, cool starts to the day.
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Blue skies.
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Blue sky and sunshine.
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Can't see a cloud.
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Anyway, we're happy.
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Can't do much about the weather.
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This afternoon, we're going to talk to the police about e-scooters.
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Should we be listening to you then? Is that a good blood pressure test?
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Look, I think
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everybody's worked, a lot of us have worked with Darren on multiple occasions.
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When he became a senator for Victoria, I rang him up and said, mate, He said, oh, can you come and talk to me? So I actually tried to help him a little bit through the way in which he would be prevailed upon and what he should do, the marks he should pick, because he was interested in a lot of stuff.
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He really was.
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He wasn't afraid.
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He went to jail multiple occasions.
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He did.
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I love that you have a personal connection and that you're going to share your
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They're rage baiting you,
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Gary.
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You see, Jason Matthews suckered me in, right? I don't like to make a prediction.
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Yeah, the same.
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Because I believe State of Origin is always the game where it can go either way.
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If the ref is on, the ref is off.
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If the judgment is this and the judgment is that.
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Really?
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I'm glad you
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didn't go to the jocks.
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Thank you.
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No, no, no. It's just purely...
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I want the team to be well prepared tonight.
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And, look, I think they're winners even if they, you know, before they walk onto the field, right? Because I think that in so many ways what State of Origin does is it drags a whole lot of young Queensland kids into the I could dream to be just like them category.
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I remember when the Dozer was here the other week, Ben Hunt.
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think so.
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And Hardgrave Road through West End.
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Hardgrave Road was where my three great-grandparents died 1883 and 1885.
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So it's named after my family.
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Uh, so i- it's filled with Vietnamese restaurants and bike shops and heaven knows.
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But it's, it's, i- i- that was where they lived.
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Uh, that's where they lived.
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So what I worry about, Shane, is that we never want to cross the river.
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Mm.
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There's a tax for everything.
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There is.
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Actually, I'm working on a better tax system.
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Talk about that tomorrow.
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Okay.
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But today, what's it got to do with the price of eggs? We're going to find out what it's all got to do with the price of eggs, our eggs.
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It's going to be splattered because of the avian flu.
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Turn up those wind turbines.
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I'm
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sick of this.
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Carla, it is such a rare thing for you to be elected to a parliament, even though the Queensland Parliament really operates like a parliament.
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But it's such a rare thing.
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Can you do something? Like, it's not about your next election chances.
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It's about what the next generation needs.
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We should be building the kit we need for... for economic activity to grow.
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it makes you unpopular?
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Yeah.
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It really is.
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And if I could, talking about grandfathers, if I could and I had the patience, I'd love to make one of those grandfather clock kits.
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You can get a kit and make one? You can get a kit, yeah.
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They cost thousands of dollars, so I don't have the money to buy it.
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But you can get either a timber finish or a white finish or whatever.
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But they have the weighted things to keep the clock running.
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beautiful.
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What's coming up on your program? Hey, a lot
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today.
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What are the great pearls of wisdom your parents passed on to you? I want to get some calls about this.
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My late mother used to say to me, she said, Gary, just because somebody else has stuck their head in an oven, you don't have to.
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In other words, think for yourself.
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That's something that I've carried with me forever.
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I'll take that.
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Carl Rackerman's joining us this afternoon as well.
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Have you ever thought about running away and joining the circus? Oh, you did.
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You went to Canberra.
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Yes, I did.
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I ran away and joined the circus.
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I did.
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I ran away famously.
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It was one of the greatest amusing days of my father's life to watch me run.
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There's that.
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What's that?
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Well, kangaroos.
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Americans are fascinated by kangaroos.
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You know, one got out.
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in North America a couple of weeks ago.
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I love when that happens.
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And all the six o'clock news has just stopped.
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Group F, I think it is.
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What's going on in the Drive program with you? Well, of course,
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Friday, Wokey Pokey is back.
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We'll preview that in about an hour, 20 minutes from now.
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Okay.
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But Wokey Pokey itself, about 20 past four.
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Nice.
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There's some outrageous stories we're going to bring you.
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Okay.
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They're forking out.
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Well, look, there's going to be a lot of people right now say that we can do better than we're doing in this country.
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I think the worst...
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I'm sorry to speak as bluntly as this, but I think the worst days are actually ahead of us.
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Yeah, yeah, totally.
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And what's happening in Iran right now in the last sort of 8, 10 hours, Donald Trump has...
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He's dropping the S-bomb to explain he's dropping bombs on Iran.
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It's a start of something that could have a major ripple effect for us here and the rest of the world.
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Yeah, 100%.
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Thank you, Albo.
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The work's been done.
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Anyway, there's some technical work being done by accountants and economists.
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The thing about an economist is someone who will tell you tomorrow why what they told you yesterday didn't happen today.
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But we'll run with it and get through all of that this afternoon.
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Plus, the Sunshine Coast and the plan to make it black.
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It's true.
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There's
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some funny stories about the Rocklea Hotel over the years.
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Jim Killen, the late Jim Killen, told me about the 1961 federal election.
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I was one year old.
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I was about to say you decided not to run that year.
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No, no, I didn't.
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Killen told me lots of great stories.
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How's that working for you? And then that bloke last night that decided, I'm just going to stand up and then walk three rows forward.
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Well, we're going to
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actually preview Queensland Day and we're going to actually have the great Queensland citizenship test this afternoon.
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Oh.
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Some great prizes, tickets to the Broncos, Bluey's World, cinema tickets.
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There's all sorts of stuff to give away.
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But we just thought we'd do a bit of fun, test what do you know about Queensland.
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It would be interesting.
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No,
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Thanks,
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Dad.
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So many great ones.
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Anyway, I'll have a chat to him this afternoon.
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What we want to do, though, this afternoon is the Giorgio family, after our tribute yesterday to George, the guy from the doll and teddy hospital who passed away over the weekend.
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So many wonderful memories.
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The family are going to join us this afternoon just to express some... thanks to the listeners who contributed so much yesterday, which is really lovely.
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That's great.
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Coldest morning on record.
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We've been riffing about the weather.
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This afternoon, a very, very sad passing over the weekend, which I want to highlight this afternoon.
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People are pouring out their hearts about this.
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The extraordinary story of George Giorgio.
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George Georgiou ran the Dole and Teddy Hospital at Stone's Corner and he passed away on Saturday.
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And very sad.
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I think of the heirlooms that I would like to pass on to my, you know, that my son has for him in future.
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Yes.
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So this afternoon, let's talk about the minimum wage.
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A small business, they're already facing the prospect of payday super payments.
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That is cash flow killer for a lot of small businesses.
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They gear themselves around keeping cash flowing through the business.
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They meet all their requirements.
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Most of them do, just about every one of them.
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Yeah.
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Yes, yeah.
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But...
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There's a couple of scenarios I want to run through a bit of that.
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Now, Dean, of course, we know Dean, who has some genuine challenges with a lot of people relating Dean Clements with regards to his face.
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His facial features have been affected by a particular ailment.
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And anyway, he went along and saw the Broncos, his beloved Broncos, be defeated by the St. George Dragons.
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Yeah, that was bad.
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Tipping competition,
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Any further and then we're at Cannon Hill train station.
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You're in with the Maritime Union of Australia.
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Next door.
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You see, that's the way to go.
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Anyway, we're going to have a lot of fun this afternoon.
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We really are.
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There is, forget the Soccer World Cup that's coming up in a couple of weeks' time.
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The
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He's a brave man for leaving it on
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public.
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I think it's right that a referee makes the call on the field.
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I think that part's right.
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So I'm looking at principle.
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But I think he made a heavy-handed call.
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He got wrapped up in the emotion of the moment.
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Oh, I

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