So his trips to Radio Dublin studios are strong childhood memories.

There'd be a youth leader, maybe two youth leaders there.

There'd be maybe 5, 10 kids, if I remember right.

You walked in the front door of Radio Dublin, and you turn right, and it was a heavy steel door, like into the old living room of the house.

And then right again was, there was a desk, and that's where the DJs would've kind of broadcast from.

Gary was lucky that he never crossed paths with Cooke when he was there, but can see how dangerous the scenario was for children.

Couldn't believe that we were so close to him as children and going there as part of a youth club, you know? But I just, when I read about it years later, it put a shiver up my spine because you think, you were just, as children, you were like lambs to the slaughter.

You were just walking up there.

So his trips to Radio Dublin studios are strong childhood memories.

There'd be a youth leader, maybe two youth leaders there.

There'd be maybe five, 10 kids, if I remember right.

You walked in the front door of Radio Dublin, and you turn right, and it was a heavy steel door, like into the old living room of the house.

And then right again was, there was a desk, and that's where the DJs would've kind of broadcast from.

Gary was lucky that he never crossed paths with Cooke when he was there, but can see how dangerous the scenario was for children.

Couldn't believe that we were so close to him as children and going there as part of a youth club, you know? But I just, when I read about it years later, it put a shiver up my spine because you think, you were just, as children, you were like lambs to the slaughter.

You were just walking up there.