And even as an outsider to the business, you know, he'll talk about things that you talked about last trip.

Yeah, I mean, I think that that is, you know, one of the great, great things of Penske leadership is, you know, it's very, very human, you know, and there is no, even though there is a hierarchy, albeit very, very flat, there's no rules around the hierarchy, you know, it's nothing...

Randall can ring any one of my direct reports and nobody's intimidated by that conversation.

Any of my guys can speak with Hamish anytime.

I haven't had the honour yet to do a tour around Australia with Roger Penske himself, but we have this thing called being Penske ready.

And that means that Roger can turn up to any one of our facilities anytime.

And it's not just Roger, it's Randall, it's Hamish, it's anyone in the management group.

You know, you were talking about before about if you have an idea and the numbers stack up, selling trucks to regional distributors to distribute groceries that need charging and they're like, we want to move to this because our customer's putting pressure on it and you're Penske and you've got electricity and you've got... an electric truck, are you able to, like, if you decided you wanted to push hard and challenge and say, look, here's the, we can sell a hundred of these things or something, is that, can you have those conversations?