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Gary Barnes

American football player

Oct 19, 2026

2:33
How did a lifetime of building and fixing things shape the way you eventually looked at the design of the federal government?
2:42
Well, for about 50 years, I was, uh, a master craftsman, as you say.
2:48
I, uh, installed wall coverings, and, uh, it's a type of trade that is... very few people can actually do.
2:56
And what you need, y- I mean, the qualifications you need for this is you need to be very artistic, you need to know a lot about math, and you need to be able to go into a room and organize it in such a way where it's gonna sh- it's gonna look like it's supposed to be there when you're finished.
3:16
So you're looking at patterns and all kinds of stuff.
3:18
And we'd run into problems all the time on, on that, you know, on...
3:22
It's, it, sometimes it's really difficult to get the pattern to work in the room that we're working in.

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58:09
... and why shouldn't the first AI-generated answer automatically become the final answer?
speaker_1HOST
7:33
So,
7:34
um, So that's, you know, I mean, basically that's what I decided that that's where the starting point was for Fix Your Gap.
7:46
And I said, so I can do this if I can change the tax system and the tax base.
7:55
And I started doing some research.
7:58
This has been going on for the better part of eight to 10 years.
8:01
And as I was researching more and more and more, I was like, you know, they're taxing basically the producers, you know, those that produce, they're basically punishing them, you know, self-employed people trying to make a living, trying to, get their businesses to grow.
8:20
Each time they try to think about growing, they're hit with either another tax or a tax raise or something that's holding them back.

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speaker_0HOST
21:50
misconceptions that people have about how much people actually pay in federal tax?
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often?
18:06
How often? Annually.
18:08
Annually.
18:09
Okay.
18:09
Annually.
18:10
So that means that the treasury will get anywhere from $20 trillion to $40 trillion a year.
18:19
That's how you fund the government.

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Two ideas.
0:21
Yeah.
0:22
So I needed to find a different tax base.
0:26
in order to pull something like this off.
0:29
And I spent a long time searching.
0:33
I looked at all the other, the fair tax, flat tax, national sales tax, all those.
0:38
They all kept coming back to a narrow base that you needed to charge a high percentage rate of taxation in order to cover costs.
0:48
So that's where I really brought AI in because I was, I was desperately searching for something.

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23:46
Yeah, term limits

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