Mm-hmm

... uh, schools and education.

And then I just kinda naturally moved into business because I was thinking, like how do I influence the, what's happening in the social care world in terms of young people? How can I influence that? So I started kinda building into that, becoming team leaders and moving up through the ranks.

Then I became a director, and then I became, what, then it was more opening companies and building companies, but trying to influence how young people got supported and how they, they came through the system.

So, and I kinda for a while worked for a lot of other people and, and not really...

I was happy to make money 'cause I, I make money easy.

I don't know if you're really allowed to say that-

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