When you found out, what was your first thought in terms of what am I going to do? How am I going to do it? Where did you go to to find out what to do? And, you know, fast forwarding to when she became an adult, what changed?

This is something I've always had a view of.

I'm on the wrong view of keeping my work and personal life very separate.

You know, only people close to me in my career really sort of know what I've been through.

But, you know, it was a pretty traumatic story for me.

Our youngest daughter, Evie, we were on holiday celebrating my mother-in-law's 60th in Devon.

I rented a beautiful cottage.

How did you deal with that? Did you just say, well, this is the situation, I'm just going to go for it? Were there times when you felt any real angst, Gareth?