And then, I mean, what was the origin story? Because it was released for charity, but it just felt like two very different things being blended together and it just working brilliantly.

Yeah, that was Comic Relief.

So I had a meeting with Richard Curtis, you know, who said, we'd love for you to do the Comic Relief song this year.

I was like, wow, honoured.

You know, and because it was for Comic Relief, they found a comedy part to go with the pop star.

And yeah, it just kind of went so well.

We put, you know, the sort of... bangra theme on it yeah it's just it's just great he just went off and um yeah he went to number one for many weeks and um yeah i you know it's a great song it's the song now that i always perform yeah you know everybody absolutely loves it um yeah and they all do the actions you know do you still love it yeah yeah it's uh it's great i'm so pleased i had you know a sort of up tempo hit because you know every festival i play at now you know everyone's waiting for that one i i kind of save it till save it until the end yeah and it goes on

So it's like a kind of, because it's something removed from yourself a little bit, but also the fact that it's been rehearsed and rehearsed and rehearsed, it's that the logic of you knowing what's coming up next stops that block getting in the way.

Was there ever a moment when it ever went back again in terms of just having a day to yourself? Or was it literally like the finals happened and off you go?

Yeah, I've, yeah, I- I've been extremely fortunate, you know, to kind of never stop working.

I've just, you know, gone on, you know, to do lots of things.

I was a pop star for a while and sold millions of records and, you know, traveled the world.

I'd, I've had, you know, sort of lots of success in places like Asia and, and Europe, um, South Africa.

You know, spent a lot of time in those- ... territories.

Um, you know, and it was, it, it, it's great to see the world.

Yeah.

What is your, what is your relationship like with Chris? Just so I understand that a little bit more, 'cause I, I met Chris and Chris explained to me that he also has a stammer.

Yeah.

Uh, having a, a stammer is, is hard.

It's, uh, an affliction I've suffered with my whole life.

As a kid it was hell at, at school.

It was, uh, traumatic.

Answering a, a register was, you know, s- something that I feared every single day.

... and whatever they may be going through, what would you say to that person?