They worked at a factory in Bath, New York, a Westinghouse plant that made vacuum tubes so you know that after the mid-60s they didn't have a job anymore because transistors came along so tell us a little bit about your background and then uh your education how you got started in health care let's just sort of go through the various stages

okay um well as you said um my parents were you know blue collar factory workers they both started out of the old tapco that's where they met which became um trw years later and um my dad um worked on, uh, engine parts for airlines.

Um, he worked third shift, uh, second shift most of my life.

So I didn't see him that often because of the times, but, um, what I got from my parents and neither one of them finished high school.

That was to me, the astounding thing they managed without it.

Um, my dad took his GED test over the kitchen table for me when I was studying in college.

So we both graduated about the same time, but, um, They were hard workers.

Number one, why would anyone want to get in health care for a long-term career when there ain't no money in it and you can't become famous in it? And number two, what if that person that wanted to get in that healthcare industry were a woman? What advice, what was your opinion on why people would want to get in and what advice would you give to a young woman starting out today?