I hadn't seen that kind of work from patient organizations before, so I really appreciate the work that continues.

In that work that we did was really remarkable because what we found was uncovered almost...

And we knew about it, but not to the degree, is that there was such a connection between the gut and the brain, and so many of those individuals were living with some kind of anxiety or depression and things like that.

And as a result, we started to do more public events talking about the link between inflammatory bowel disease and mental health.

And we've got a lot of resources on our website now where we've really focused on mental health and the connection.

And we also learned, of course, that from really great psychiatrists working in this space, is that inflammation in the brain causes depression and anxiety, and if your body's inflamed, if you don't mitigate the disease and get it under control, then you will have these side effects that are in other parts of the...

Side effects, but they actually become the dominant thing because suddenly you're living with depression and anxiety, and you can't go to the bathroom, or you're going to the bathroom 500 times.

Can you tell us a little bit about when that possibly would happen or maybe some reasons as to why it doesn't happen and it's not a fit, that for certain things there's reasons that groups are separate and it's not as simple as working together on everything?