Did you guys move to LA because you wanted to break into mainstream filmmaking or do you want to remain independent for your entire careers? What's your goals there?

Well, I think that, you know, we moved to LA because we wanted to live in a city.

We both come from small towns.

Okay.

And so we wanted to, you know, just take part in the art scene of this city.

And Alex is involved in the literary scene, and I'm also involved in the music scene here.

And so there's just a lot of cool communities of people that we know and would love to involve in our films.

And the question I like to end with, which you've already started touching on, is where do you see the future of independent cinema going? yeah well you