Yeah, man.

Learning in practice is also like, I mean, this is obvious to say, but I mean, the amount of learning and how quickly you learn is insane.

I have all my like, you wouldn't be surprised about this, but like I have a whole like chat GPT, like folder and section that has everything for the business and everything's like really organized.

It's awesome because I can just ask it questions, but I've been on 166 like call them sales calls, consult, whatever this year, 166.

And I cannot tell you as someone that, you know, had a 10 year career prior to this and like sales marketing, like all of that stuff, the amount that I've learned in not even a year yet, like 10, 10 months of, um, just running the business all myself and and the stakes being a little bit higher but just the amount of repetition just because of the volume of what i'm doing now like what i do now is talk to guys on instagram if it seems like a good fit we get on a call talk about coaching maybe it's a good fit maybe it's not and then they either become an athlete or they don't that's pretty much what i do all day every day like that's what the business is built around so it's because it's so simple and focused, it's been very repetitive.

And just how much I have gotten better at those conversations and those skills is just insane.

Thinking back on it as someone that has done sales and marketing for a long time.

But if you don't, you don't wanna kind of go that route right um and so we were just talking about different peptides and stuff and he's like oh yeah i've seen guys have had good success obviously with testosterone hgh which i haven't messed around with and then he was talking about like the newest thing is is the redhead thing but that's more of like a glp-1 uh like building

I think, I think we'll look back on this 10 years from now, we'll be drinking a beer together and be like, bro, remember that time we were in Cooperstown and it started pouring rain, you hit a home run or whatever it was, you know?

Yeah, the experiences are everything, man.

100%.

And one thing, we've talked about this on the podcast before, and it's kind of a hot button topic in parenting circles, right? And it's this whole idea that youth sports, you know, the clickbait is youth sports are ruining families, right? And, you know, what I've said in the past...

And I still 100% believe this is like, I remember when we had, man, I'm blanking on her first name.

Cochran was her last name.

She worked for a Shalom Front.

Dude, it's the most

And so it's

incredibly, incredibly promising.

And the way that we do it, obviously, is like, I get these guys on a protocol, but we're also lifting.

We're being maniacal about how much protein they're eating.

So we're doing all of the things to establish the habit so that they don't have to do it in perpetuity, but also so that they don't lose muscle.

But the fascinating thing about these things is, and I've heard this anecdotally, but now I have a couple of guys doing it, is that it doesn't just help with the food noise and cravings, but it helps them with not maybe craving the drink that they used to crave.

It makes everything easier from a, hey, this thing is hard to put down, and now I feel like I don't have that same craving.

Or is or am I tripping?

Why did you want to do a marathon?

Yeah, I mean, I'm just thinking about the business aside part.

Like, for me, they're not separate in that, you know, I have found that I really enjoy and I'm honestly really good at coaching guys that want to do these races.

And I think the fact that...

the reason that I want to do it and the reason that I have found that every guy that I've talked to wants to do it.

I mean, it's similar to what we've always talked about with the men in the arena.

And it's just this particular avenue of putting yourself out there, testing yourself, training for something.

But if you were to, if you were to look back on it, like training for your next one, what are you going to do different?

So I'm sharing with that.

You know, and then the other thing about being intentional about male spaces that you're joining and where I think, you know, what you're doing with the men's club is so powerful is that.

The reason you originally started the men's club, and I remember you always telling this story is because the school that your kids go to had a men's club and they get together, but they get together and knock some beers down while watching sports.

And you thought that there was a better way to do that.

I think that there's so much truth to that in that the type of men and again, this is generally speaking, but I think it's true.

Like the type of guys that you are going to meet and rub shoulders with if like it's a constant group that's like, you know, knocking some beers down at night and watching sports.

And this is both like in my experience and I'm curious, kind of your thoughts on it are going to be people that like, you know, they're complaining about stuff and not necessarily coming up with like solutions.

I think