I'd like to know if you guys are experimenting and all of that, but like, what are the examples of like the real things that you guys are seeing done in these buildings optimizationally that's actually moving the needle and saving energy?

Yeah, I mean, I can speak on this.

I mean, I think, like I mentioned, scheduling is a huge factor.

I mean, I think I know it seems like it's such a simple thing and probably the most unsexy thing, but it is it'll save you.

It is probably the biggest saver.

I learned this early on, like with the work that Patrick and I were doing.

Part of the mandate that he would give me is, okay, go replace all the controls.

Gabe, what about your current role at UCSF? Do these roles resonate? Is this what