So would you start with a fitting model that was chosen by the brand that you're working on? They would choose somebody that represented the size and shape they wanted to design for, and then you'd work with that person and you'd figure out how to make patterns that really work for that shape? Yeah.

Yep, absolutely.

We would start obviously in the industry, you start with straight sizes and then you expand from there.

So one of the things that we talk about a lot is that plus size orders are placed after straight size orders.

So the fitting time that you get with plus size models is much shorter than you would for straight size.

So you are supposed to fit things in one or two samples and approve and then they go to cut and that's it.

It's very different from straight sizes where you can get away with four or five different samples to make sure things are really perfect.

Can you explain a little bit what the proportional method is