there? Like this?

For me, I don't know that I got any real good advice.

You always try and go there as fresh as you can and Try and be as competitive as you can all three nights.

And one thing I'd say I've found is it don't do any good to try and go in smooth and easy.

You get three runs and most of the time you're better off going as hard as you can and making a mistake if so it happens rather than you start taking an easy run at it And before you know it, it's night three and it's over.

But it's definitely a tough competitive show.

And it's easy sometimes to come out of there feeling like you got beat up.

Talk a little bit about the travel and the preparation, getting the horses there healthy.

Go ahead, Freeman.

I, I agree with what you said, Kyle.

It, [laughs] it, it definitely wouldn't...

Uh, I look at the pedigree a lot in the Clydes.

First of all, as you guys know, you gotta find one that's built to wear a harness and willing to wear a harness, and then you worry about what color it is and what it's bred like.

But, uh, there's...

I know enough about the breeding now finally that I, I, I know it wouldn't keep me from buying a horse if I thought he had the superstar look if I didn't have a clue about his pedigree, but it helps if you've had a bloodline that did really good things for you.

Yep.

What are your thoughts on some of that, that was just said?

Uh, I, I agree with Ross as far as, uh, picking, picking a horse for a certain spot, especially with Clydes.

Uh, a lot of things change a year or two after you have them.

They might, they might grow three inches, and they might not grow anymore at all.

So find a good horse, and, and they'll find a spot in the hitch if they're good enough.

I've had...

I've experienced that a lot here in the last nine years is you, you pick a horse and you think he's gonna end up somewhere, and they'll outgrow the spot or, or they just like a different position better.

Freeman?

What are your thoughts on some of that, that was just said?

Uh, I, I agree with Ross as far as, uh, picking, picking a horse for a certain spot, especially with Clydes.

Uh, a lot of things change [laughs] a year or two after you have them.

They might, they might grow three inches and they might not grow anymore at all, so find a good horse and, and they'll find a spot in the hitch if they're good enough.

I've had-- I've experienced that a lot here in the last nine years is you, you pick a horse and you think he's gonna end up somewhere, and they'll outgrow the spot or, or they just like a different position better.

Some horses, it takes a exceptional horse to be a wheel horse and perform with the rest of them, I feel like.

And some horses can do it better in the swing where they're not pulling the wagon or in the lead and, uh...

Yeah