Let's say specifically with the mother starting to feel anger and then feeling guilt about the anger, how do y- how are you going to, in this model, work with the mother and help them work through that conflict, Ashlyn?

Yeah.

I, I, I mean, maybe I'll, maybe I'll, I'll start with that.

I mean, one of the things we want to, um, identify about that they're struggle with angry feelings, it's part of what we're working to do is help people to develop these skills to observe what's going on internally and understand about themselves.

And that we identify, like, okay, well, uh, look, your angry feelings cause extremely, you know, discomfort for you, guilt, or you get anxious about them.

Uh, and 'cause people oftentimes, they don't recognize that these things are going on, you know, sort of under, under the radar or automatically.

So you, you help them to recognize that piece.

They get there and they're thinking about them all day long, and is it okay, and trying to go check on them, you know? Okay, like, let's talk about this, what could be going on there behind the scenes.