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Dr. Frederick Gooding Jr.

Dr. Frederick Gooding Jr.

Associate Professor & Dr. Ronald E. Moore Endowed Professor of Humanities at Texas Christian University; historian and cultural critic specializing in race, media, and African American studies.

Jul 22, 2026

18:58
Like, how do I have to be here in this moment? Like, and I think that's what we see oftentimes is the exhaustion.
19:06
No, you're right.
19:07
Because going back to building upon where we first started with the idea of the two-ness, I mean, it is exhausting to have to constantly code switch and go back and forth.
19:17
And, you know, we've seen these movies where, you know, someone has a, you know, a double identity and how, you know, in the beginning it works, but by the end of the movie, it's not working as well, right? But this is not a movie.
19:28
This is real life.
19:29
This is every day, right? So how do you navigate that, right? And going back to what you were saying about smiling too much, I mean, just think about what you just said.
19:38
How is there such a thing as smiling too much? I mean, isn't that the point to enjoy this thing called life? It's hard enough as it is, right? And so this idea of us having to choose, as Javonza, rest in peace, Javonza Kunjufu talked about, so many Black males have this dilemma of choosing to be cool or choosing to be smart.

8 MINS LATER

27:56
understood it.

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