Well, um, I'm managing a new program, uh, launching in the new year with taster sessions to drum up interest and raise profile.

Yeah, I thought that's what it was.

Uh, s- so I mean, like, was there an interview process or anything?

Why are you quizzing Fallon about how she got the job here?

Well, it struck me that program manager is a role that quite a lot of people could do, and Fallon's primarily a cook, isn't she?