but not really in the in the essence of what i think you might consider a gamer but i'm going to learn a lot and hopefully share that with you too so in front of me i have fred norian who's director producer he's president of lvga and the luxembourg film academy and about shillin charlotte charlotte charlotte secretary of video games on lu i have monica sherban who is a game developer and environmental economist and daniel clouch who is an indie game developer and we'll talk about the game that you have released as well so welcome to all of you now i am going to of course start with you fred because as the president of lvga you can set the scene for us tell us about the the history of gaming and more specifically that in luxembourg

Yeah, so LVGA stands for Luxembourg Video Game Association.

And also just to clarify, we have three pillars in that organization.

One is the game developers, so the guys who make the games.

But we also, the second pillar is education.

So all the different education programs for video game programming and game design that you have in Luxembourg, because we have some.

And the third pillar is the event and e-sport pillar.

How can you find 20,000? That's the big