Yeah.

So there's a beautiful hotel there called Inverlochy Castle, and, um, I was researching for a book that I didn't write, and [laughs] I stayed at Inverlochy Castle, and I had the, the main room.

And, uh, I did a day on Ben Nevis with the Lochaber Mountain Rescue guys, um, who are just the most incredible people you can imagine.

And there was a pulp mill near Fort William, and the pulp mill bar was where the Lochaber Mountain Rescue boys went for a pint after they'd done a rescue.

And, uh, I was invited to join them, and I phoned down from the, the main room in Inverlochy Castle and said, "Could I order a taxi?" "Yes, Mr.

McCauley.

Where are you traveling to?" I said, "Uh, I'm going to the, uh, pulp mill social club." [laughs] The guy chuckled, and then he said, "Certainly." I came downstairs and he said, "Uh, can I just tell you you're the last of our residents ever to order a taxi to the pulp mill f- social club.

[laughs]

Yeah.

And, you know, there's 20 kids at a bus stop, and a bus comes, and there's no sign of any other traffic, and the 20-odd get on the bus.

And I know it's going into Perth, and I don't know how big a place Perth is really, and I got on the bus, and it was just stupidity, right? So anyway, I eventually found my way to the right school, and we got in, and I think it was about day four, it was PE.

Right.

And, uh, Perth Academy was a rugby playing school.

I'd been at a football playing school, so I was never really being considered for rugby.

And I can remember being in the changing room and a couple of guys being friendly enough saying to me, "Do, do you play rug-?" "I don't play rugby.

Don't play rugby, but I, I skied.

W- who is John McGinn, and why is it always John McGinn?

Well, John McGinn is, uh, he's a very strong player.

He's, uh, the, the beating heart of Aston Villa, who won, of course, a European trophy this year.

He's a decent guy.

He's a, he's a solid footballer and a bit like Andy Robertson.

You know, they, they played in smaller leagues in Scotland and then went south and, you know, have gone on to fantastic careers.

The one that I would like to say, Paddy, to look out for is Giannoulis, Ben Giannoulis on the wing, and that kind of takes me back to when I first started going to see Scotland games in 1973.

... address that one listener and tell them what this means for Scotland?

... separated, but you don't hate each other, and you accept the, um, the half brothers and sisters with open arms.

Right.

Well, I, what I put it down to, Callie, is that, um, I, I was late to the game, okay? So we'd had a lot of time together before I went on the road.

The decision to, to jump from a safe, nominally a safe job into doing this was something that we talked about long and hard.

There was a lot of sleepless nights.

Um, and Aileen had been a medical secretary.

Uh, and she, we decided that if I made sufficient, she could stay at home and bring up the kids and be a house mom.

What would you pick, Fred, as your namaste motherfucking life-changing moment?

[laughs]

At 6:00.

Um, and we thought, "We'd better make a move." So we tried to hail a taxi, and there was a guy worked at the BBC called Charles Marx.

And Charles, for some reason, happened to be in that very street at that very moment, and he clocked us, and he came over, and he said, "Did you boys not be down at the banks of the Seine with Jackie Bird?" And he took one look in the eyes, and he said, "I tell you what we'll do, boys.

I'll just phone them and let them know that you've, uh, there's terrible traffic problems." And he probably saved our careers because we were steaming.

People can come down and see you guys in action.

They can indeed.

Um, uh, you know, it's, one of the unusual things about putting a, a show like this on is they have different priced tickets, and the dear ones have gone first.