It's, um...

The reason that I feel like what this movie gets is I'm so obsessed with it because it does feel like human connection sometimes, and it's imbued with that, and then yet it always somehow misses.

So it's kind of like playing on all of your desires, but

But yeah, I think it's always hard to be mean to people on cue, because I'm kind of sweet.

Yeah, I was working with the sweetest people.

He was great.

I never grew a beard that far before.

And already it was not that far, so that was a challenge, but the rest of it was really easy.

In the edit, I mean.

T- yeah.

And, and then in the production side of it, we were just talking about that the other night, where you...

Th- this, this script that you just wrote was, was so, it was so funny and in such a grounded character driven way.

And there, there was, you know, just every scene is quite intentional in that sense.

Um, and there is a thing once you start doing the scenes, you kind of have to f- everyone who's in it is also so funny, and I feel like we would play and explore.

But at the end of the day, like the movie ends up being kind of n- like 95% or something of the, of the actual script from the get-go.

Yeah

How far did you go into researching PTSD? Because that is something that your character has.

Yeah.

You know, you do, you do all of th- that kind of...

You, you, you ask all the questions, you find out all the information, but a- at the end of the day, I think the, the most important thing is what feels truthful from him.

And, uh, and, and, yeah, his d- his desire in that moment to, to really build, build himself up, and, and, uh...

I, I do think all of those...

A lot of depictions of PTSD were, were sort of like, you know, and sometimes in a movie it feels like the scene where the character knows that it's happening.

Yeah, yeah.

doing the scenes, you kind of have to...

everyone who's in it is also so funny, and I feel like we would play and explore, but at the end of the day, like, the movie ends up being kind of, like, 95% or something of the actual script from the get-go.

So there is a sort of trust element that Billy's talking about that I think maybe you're asking about in terms of if we found this funny at the outset, like...

It won't always be the shiny thing, but focus on it because it really

What did you love about that role?

I really loved how these two wrote him.

I loved that in this story, every single character, once the killing starts in the movie, they don't just magically transform into different heroic people.

They can only react and figure out their issues by being themselves in their most eccentric and sometimes stubborn ways.