Um, we've got bylaws, which are later on in the binder, uh, for civil matters with RIO is for the GA. What's the distinction and the significance, you know, it may be in a practical sense or whatever, whatever's helpful.

Well, remember that the PCA itself is a corporation.

It is an incorporated body for civil legal purposes, much in the same way that not all, but almost all PCA churches are incorporated.

And Basically, bodies like the PCA and individual churches incorporate both for regularity and predictability, so that there's a body of corporate law that governs their decisions when they buy or sell property or borrow money, etc., and do these sorts of things.

Banks like to see corporate documentation rather than just unincorporated, random pieces of paper.

And so that helps there.

The other reason, of course, is a limitation of liability for civil matters.

but it is significant and and we do follow those rules um i guess before we talk my first question would be so you've established kind of the relationship between the rao and roberts that we follow rao and then we moved roberts after how does the bco relate to the rao um and then maybe eventually we want to get into the conversation about constitutionality and amendments and all that kind of stuff right yeah

Yeah

... and take my place now that I won't be writing overtures.

Uh, and so it was confusing as to the, the way that these recommendations would get to the assembly.

How many days in advance did they need to get there? Did they need to go through the Overtures Committee? Could they come directly to the floor? Would they be debatable on the floor? And what everyone decided was it would not be wise to bring, you know, whatever it is, 12 chapters of the BCO to the floor for, for all debate, amendment, substitution, et cetera, like the RPIR report, that that would keep us there until August.

And so, uh, the committee is chaired by a friend of mine, Nate Sheridan.

He was trying to figure out the way to do this.

I was advising him, along with members of the Committee on Constitutional Business and John Bice, uh, and other parliamentarians, uh, including, uh, Jane Eichberg, ironically, uh, and, and Mel and, uh, David Coffin.

... uh, I would just encourage teaching elders to, to, to model that and to try to do that for their-