So we're going from interaction with Connie to actual behavior as it relates to code of conduct or compliance.

Yeah, absolutely.

And I am a great believer that judgment isn't something that you can just turn on as soon as you enter a crisis.

It's something you've got to build and practice over time.

What I see so often in organizations is ethics is treated like that annual refresher that you get a badge for or a compliance moment rather than an institutional and an individual capability that you need to keep up to speed.

We're taking the same approach, interestingly, now in the strategy function.

Because again, strategic stuff, it's not something you just turn on in a moment.

Can you share some of your own experiences with using technology in compliance?

So we're going from interaction with Connie to actual behavior as it relates to code of conduct or compliance.

Yeah, absolutely.

And I am a great believer that judgment isn't something that you can just turn on as soon as you enter a crisis.

It's something you've got to build and practice over time.

What I see so often in organizations is ethics is treated like that annual refresher that you get a badge for or a compliance moment rather than an institutional and an individual capability that you need to keep up to speed.

We're taking the same approach, interestingly, now in the strategy function.

Because again, strategic stuff, it's not something you just turn on in a moment.

Can you share some of your own experiences with using technology in compliance?