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Aug 16, 2026
Brilliant Minds, Rigid Systems: The Case for Neuro-Inclusive Leadership with Frankie Berkoben
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4:11Sadhana SmilesHOST
So give us an idea or colour into the background and what's got you to where you are today.

Frankie BerkobenGUEST
So this is very common for a lot of interdisciplinary specialists who, which is my name for generalists, that going very deep in multiple different areas.

Frankie BerkobenGUEST
But the experience or there's like a common thread that really ties it all together.

Frankie BerkobenGUEST
And for me, starting out my degree, as you said, was in geology and geological sciences.

Frankie BerkobenGUEST
And it was biology, chemistry, physics, planetary physics, astronomy, as well as anthropogenic climate change and aspects of psychology and pieces like that.
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11:18Sadhana SmilesHOST
personally, I don't know whether you think the same way, right? What's your advice to leaders? Because not everybody's going to have a diagnosis of ADHD, but what's your advice to leaders and particularly, I guess, those who manage people who have those characteristics? What's the best way to manage them in their roles?
188 - ADHD Is A Label But Capacity Is The Problem - with Frankie Berkoben
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Thomas WatkinsHOST
But for a listener, you know, who should kind of be like, hmm, maybe I should kind of give this a thought.

Frankie BerkobenGUEST
So a sense of malaise or something's wrong, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Frankie BerkobenGUEST
So trusting your gut and especially like we're all problem solvers, especially in the tech world.

Thomas WatkinsHOST
And so when you work with folks, how does the engagement unfold? Do you do kind of like a diagnostic exploration and then develop a plan and meet with them periodically? How does that look?