So like was now just so we can understand it was, was Cleveland necessary to be able to get on the stage in Boston? Like you would not have been able to start in Boston.

I might have been able to, but I just sort of fell into it.

I went to the Cleveland Comedy Club on a whim with a friend of mine and went to the open mic night and I won.

Oh, wow.

But I came with a theater background, so I had no stage fright.

And there were 25 acts that were not professionals on a Sunday night, 25 acts.

And I beat them all and won 50 bucks.

Depends on how big you

Depends on how big you write

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Woody Allen says having 45 minutes of original stand-up comedy is comparable to writing a novel.

And so, uh, they call it, they call it a routine for a reason.

So when I fi- when you find something funny, you keep it and you use it all the time, and you try to enhance it and make it funnier.

It's like a poker hand.

You know, you put down two, you pick up two.

And it was really your improv that got it done, i- in my opinion.