Little training, hard day today training? And you had physicals.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, you know, obviously doing the physicals was the fight comes up, you know? It just, there's a lot of things that come up besides just training for a fight that, I mean, now I'm a 20-year veteran being a professional fighter, so I just roll with it.

It's funny, 'cause you can hear people on the other line going, "Hey, man, I'm sorry, but, you know, can we get you here at this time and that? And I know it's inconvenient." I'm, [laughs] and I, and I realize why they do that, is 'cause when you're dealing with other people that haven't done this their whole life-

Yeah

... you know, like, I trained hard, but I never trained smart when I was younger.

It was like, ah, you know, who cares? Tape it up, rub dirt on it, walk it off type mentality, which, you know, r- completely, uh, unintelligent.

And now I've learned my lesson and...

how are you doing uh had some surgeries the last couple of years do you feel like you're recovering where you want to be are you on schedule or

just now in the last two weeks yes um i wish i learned the surgeries earlier uh actually ron was with me when i my wife finally had the final straw because uh last november when i was sparring the gym and i trained with my students I work with them, you know, we wrestle, we grapple, we work different aspects where they're striking and whatnot.

And it was a good day, and I had my hand on the heavy bag, and I was actually at home because it was a private gym of my student that I was working with at the time.

And all of a sudden, I sat down.

Literally, I felt like someone marionetted me.

I just buckled down, and I caught him.

my friend, McGregor, one of the coaches, he's like, yo, are you all right? And I'm like, that was weird, right? I'm like, what the hell was that? The next couple of days, it happened again.

Yeah.

Frank, when she started to tell you this as an early teen, what are you thinking? What is your wife thinking? Are, are you, are you worried? Are you trying to convince her otherwise, or are you all in?

We were worried.

A- and obviously, you know, being a professional martial artist is like being a professional musician.

I- I- I draw a lot correlations, lines easily.

I think, you know, learning a musical instrument, having music be a part of your life is like having martial arts.

It's a, it's a way to learn about yourself, way to overcome situations, just a way to grow and adapt.

So, the martial arts for my family is just kind of a way of life.

Are, are you okay with that or are, is there any part of you that's worried that she's stretching herself too thin?