Is that the-

Uh, so after high school, I went to college, uh, got my, uh, degree in social work.

At first I was an elementary education major and switched to social work.

Um, and when the recession happened...

So I was, uh, a foster care case manager up in Detroit, Michigan, and then I was, uh, running anger management groups for junior high and high school-aged boys that were getting in trouble with the judicial system.

And then I was also, um, doing some drug and alcohol prevention, uh, courses for elementary through high school, uh, level.

Then when the recession happened, uh, back in '09, um, Michigan was hit hard and a lot of, uh, nonprofits and there was...

What inspired you to get into that out of high school into college and going into that?