How can hydrogen make electrification better? Why should we be thinking hydrogen when we think electrification?

That's a very important point because, as you mentioned, I mean, sometimes people oppose one or the other, but really there is a complementarity between electrification and the deployment of hydrogen.

And as a matter of fact, you have many sectors which are the hard to electrify sectors, being in the industry or being in the mobility.

And that's where actually hydrogen can play a role because of the features of hydrogen.

You take some of the manufacturing processes, I was mentioning refining, but also chemical and to some extent some of the steel processes, electricity cannot do the job.

And to bring energy, resilience, but also low carbon, hydrogen has a role to play.

As a matter of fact, we see clearly that it's helping both in terms of low carbon, but also in terms of resilience.

Can you tell us a little bit more about what it is? What problem is it trying to solve? And what is it that we're actually calling for?