
Frances E. Lee
American political scientist
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Sep 12, 2026
Selling the war: Purges, polygraphs and propaganda | The Listening Post
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15:46Bernie MorenoSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Can you do me a favor in the audience and stand up if you thought that during these times saying these things made you somehow a lesser human being?

Frances E. LeeGUEST
It crystallized a set of grievances about the pandemic that linger, where people felt that they were judged as selfish or as deniers.
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18:08Jay BhattacharyaSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Death threats for me? essentially a propaganda campaign, alleging that I wanted to let the virus rip, that I wanted to kill people, none of which was true.

Frances E. LeeGUEST
The goal was to help government achieve its ends and not in any way call into question the policies.

Frances E. LeeGUEST
There were a lot of reasons to doubt whether they would be successful, and reality checking needed to happen.