What are your thoughts on how to ensure that that person voice doesn't get lost in all of this system talk? That's

a good question.

One, again, the conversations, like Jo's just said, have the conversations and do everything like that.

Two, in all areas, to be honest, find out about your local health watch as well.

Because if I've got five stories that are coming up, you know, talking about what needs to be done, I take it to the ICP.

I sit in all these meetings.

I can do that and I can take it forward.

And what are your thoughts on that, about co-production and