Yeah

... like, um...

And about the cycle of like, I'm the best, I'm the fucking worst, I'm the best, I'm...

Which I think is part of making things, you know? Um, I think it's, it was...

I do a lot of writing on tour actually, 'cause most, like, I like to write while I'm in motion or daydreaming, and there's, like, a bit, there's, like, dead time.

But yeah, I was thinking about greatness and, like, the cost of greatness and how every album I'm like, "I'm gonna be satisfied with this one.

I'm gonna be completely satisfied.

But do you think you were just trying to cope? Was that what going back on stage w- was? Because obviously there would've been people around you that would've given you the grace required to, to process.